Thoughts on Saturn, Conscious Saturn. Part 3

Ah, this feels good. Finally getting down to this. I feel like this will unblock other areas of thought.

Following on from parts 1 and 2 that really set the direction of this thought process. Where I finished with the idea that karma is too complex and important to be one planet, and that Saturn tends to discusses the "work" area in a sense. So in it's negative it turns up in transit like "You're not doing your job properly". In the positive it turns up as "Wow, you did that really well". 

This definitely fits other instances in my life. Issues I have had with workplaces where they have made things difficult for me have correlated with Saturn transits. But it is unlikely that wage slave work is a one to one correlation with Saturn.

As I said, I am now going to think about how Saturn has shown up in my human design chart to further discuss this dynamic. I had planned to do both conscious and unconscious in this post. But when writing it I realised I won't fit unconscious Saturn in.

Conscious Saturn, gate 5.4.

As seen in my human design chart. This is happening on an undefined centre. Obviously I don't know offhand what a defined sacral would feel like since I don't have one. So I can't contrast what the difference is between defined and undefined Saturn here. Although, with the two hanging hexagrams I have going from the sacral, and two further I have going to the sacral. By transit fairly often my sacral is defined. But having something defined by transit is a completely different thing than having it natally defined. 

I do not have an issue getting myself to do things. Of course, like everyone else I have the issue where occasionally I will think I should have done something productive rather than watched that TV show. But in general, it is not my biggest issue. I have a huge amount of anger and I enjoy the gym. I don't have to force myself to go. I have a constant, grinding, semi panic that keeps me productive when illness is not a problem preventing that. 

One thing that does impact my productivity though. At least a thing that correlates with it. Is shown in this hexagram. This is the hexagram of cycles and waiting. Things like having a pattern in ones life. In the line 4, which is about relating and people (heart chakra stuff!) In the gate 5.4. it's about having a pattern and NOT ALLOWING OTHERS TO PUSH YOU OFF THAT. So it is not having the same pattern as everyone else most likely. 

In my life, this is very true. Navigating around my health condition, I have a lot of patterns that are abnormal. I have a lot of things that I have learned that are simply not part of mainstream understanding, and with weight loss this is particularly true. 

I have a few stomach issues. Celiac linked likely, which most diabetics have. It means that if I eat well for too long I will get uncomfortable. Soups and salads, my stomach only has so much endurance for. At times, cake is pretty much perfect for my bloodsugars. It is surprisingly, perfectly, long acting. Whereas gluten free bread is way too long acting. It will peak long after the insulin does. Meaning when I eat it, I risk hypo'ing and then the bloodsugars will raise later on. A recipe for disaster.

Basically, what I am saying. That I manage quite a lot of different individual factors when moderating my health. Another thing is my insulin. I have two insulins. One is long acting and another is short acting. The long acting takes about 5 to 7 days to change. When I lose weight, the need for long acting changes. So when my weight goes down I suddenly have to eat more. (I.e. because I have less need for long acting insulin but still have it in my system!)

I have discovered a few other unpredictable things as well. 

Moderating all these factors. Including things like exercise. Basically means that I am taking a few different weight loss things, and things relevant to diabetes, and kind of pushing them into my own model. Organising around other limitations in my life. Jobsearching or what have you. Spiritual things such as prayer, meditation or music. Means that all this information has added together meaning that my own way of doing things. The times I sleep, the patterns I have. Are all not at all understandable to others. But very effective. I have been losing weight and such.

It took me a long time to understand the manifestation of Saturn in the gate 5.4. It feels like something that I just do without putting effort into. It's not easy to notice. I just happen to keep my own schedule in things and since I am largely a hermit. It has not been highlighted as an issue because no one is trying to pull me off my patterns.

It's correlation with weight loss though which is a huge positive improvement is notable. Weight loss is a classic Saturnian kind of thing.  

That was long enough and the other placement I have with Saturn. Gate 26.4. Is very much an emotional step change. Not discussing everyday things like this but going into grief. So I will do this on the next, and most likely final part of this series. I wonder if the 26, being defined and part of a full channel. Is different and deeper, requiring more processing because it is defined. Whereas this that is relevant to every day life is because it is hanging on an undefined centre?

Thoughts on Saturn, Part 2.

These are my theories on Saturn then.

Karma:

Firstly, let's start with 'karma'. It is often said that Saturn is 'Karma'. It does seem to have a correlation with something "Karmic" like court cases and such like that. But what is "Karma"?

What karma is meant to be is some sort of grand metaphysical law that what we do comes back to us. This is the case in both positive and negative behaviours. But the term karma is usually meant in relation to negative behaviours. So if you do something bad, the same thing or something similar or equivalent will happen to you. 

The trouble is, for me, with this analogy. Is that it seems to undermine the general complexity of the world. Does Saturn ever turn up to punish people for their actions? Seemingly yes. But so do other planets. What even is an action to begin with? If I cheat on someone is it the same as someone cheating on me? What if I cheated on someone that was abusive and the person that cheated on me I was not abusive to? 

It simply seems to me that life is too grand and complex for such a simplistic explanation. We are experiencing a lot of "karma" in the world at the moment, as a lot of ideological weirdos in America are having their six or seven figure jobs and funding cut for things that most Americans would not agree with. There is a sense of rage that tax dollars have been spent on this when, very often, that taxation has lead to people living lives of poverty; i.e. the people paying the tax.

This is not Saturn. This is Pluto. Pluto has uncovered something huge. Neptune is another planet that seems to have a link to these concepts. That planet that covers and reveals and changes according to an unknown rulebook. Linking to ideology. Linking to philosophy and all sorts of hidden psychological and sometimes, grindingly painful, things. 

To me, karma has shaped up a lot to look like this: The world doesn't run on emotions, the world runs according to an incredibly specific and complex set of mechanics. A set of mechanics to which "ethics" in general is relevant to. 

When morals, ethics are happening and things are running fine. Then things work according to some sort of grand plan. But when someone makes a decision that is not in line with ethics. There is a spanner in the works and a whole entire set of mechanics gets pushed off. The person who cheats has a worse relationship with their partner as they have to hide themselves more, then their partner resents them more, and this effects how present they both are for their children. It means they are less able to take on life challenges like say, a problem at the childs school, due to being indulgently concerned with their own problems.

The "karma" being that twenty years later the child holds them accountable for this. This if followed goes back to the original mechanic and cheating.

All this, is more than the simplicity of Saturn. It might include Saturn. But life is more complex than this one planet. It will include, in some way or another, pretty much all planets I would imagine. Because morality, ethics and so karma, are all big and important enough to be involved in "everything". 

Transiting Saturn:

Amongst all this weirdness then, where does Saturn fit in? Saturn that I have said is both karma and not karma?

A few weeks or a month ago of so I was going on two different forums. One was a very female heavy astrology forum. Another was a, basically mixed gender spiritual forum. I was talking in two posts and I think this showed how Saturn can be represented both positively and negatively. In a sense.

The spiritual forum had someone on it that was talking about parenting and how they were basically enabling drug addiction in their child as their form of "love". The astrology forum I was talking to someone that actually explained their astrology and transits to me. And I complimented them on this, and said this was good of them. 

The transit was Saturn conjunct Venus in Pisces. To the drug addict enabler I basically said what was obvious. That I thought that was not at all an expression of love. To the astrology woman. As I already said, I complimented her. 

This seems to me to be the two sides of Saturn and what I think Saturn relates to is "work". Either you have worked well, you have worked hard and done well in whatever task that was. Or you have not done well and are now being pushed back on for the complacency, that correlates, but is not at its core, a moral issue. It's prime meaning is in relation to "work". 

Saturn is the working planet. 

The next part.

In the next part, I will go through how Saturn shows in my own chart and what I have discovered about it's placement in the human design chart. 

Thoughts on Saturn. Part 1.

FINALLY I am doing this. Although only part 1 as I am still feeling a bit strange in my health. Also, this laptop is malfunctioning.

I summarised in my last post a kind of bottleneck with my various creative thoughts. For the moment that seems to have been solved and I suspect, this is partly due to my NoFap days raising to 10. When it is not clear what to focus on, that energy pushes the most base of the relevant ideas. Which is good. The output that relates to the real world.

Saturn

I recently had a moment, in my working out of various hexagrams and such. Where I realised that Ra Uru Hu was wrong, in my perception, about something in the human design. That sounds absolutely crazy right? Since it was his system. 

It is just my thought, but he was writing about the gate 26. He summarised how it works and stated that when there is a certain issue. The gate 44 arrives to guide or explain to the gate 26 what's what.

No, this isn't true. The reason I believe it isn't true is that energy flows up the chart. Gate 44 is below gate 26 so gate 26 picks information out of what the gate 44 offers or experiences. It does not flow the other way. Gate 25 does not flow down to gate 51. Gate 30 doesn't flow down to gate 41. Below the throat, the energy just goes up. 

It's interesting how the mind works. I have had a fair few thoughts on the design that have strained themselves against Ra Uru Hu's teaching on it. But they have not crossed the barrier to expression. Because, I suppose, I don't want to be wrong; and while I think Ra Uru Hu is probably right on most things. Expressing views different from his means I might be wrong. 

But then when that is broken with the thought process above. That entire thing broke and my thoughts on Saturn, that are also different from Ra's, suddenly became easier to express.

I am just stating that out loud because I think that is very interesting. Paying attention to Ra Uru Hu's teachings was never pushed on me with any sort of force. I just didn't want to be wrong. But it's interesting how the brain universalises stuff like this and I wonder in how many different areas of peoples lives must this be happening. That feels like a whole universe of thoughts just there!  

My chart:

Here is my chart. I'm going to explain my Saturn placements that reveal exactly my age. Not showing my age is why the placements either side of this chart are cropped out. But, the insecurity remains so despite explaining my Saturn placements, I am still going to leave this cropped version of my chart. 

There are three separate thoughts I want to communicate. All of them to do with Saturn. This blog will be heavy on my own experience because I always think it is the area that we all know best. I know my life and my chart because I live with them 24/7. That is a lot of information. I realise this might seem egotistical but I genuinely believe this is a good way to get information. It's also just the message that is there for me to express. I did not really think about it too much.

The three sections are the transits. Just one insight into the Saturn transits I had recently, this is literally just insights from online forum chatting. Then, my conscious Saturn in gate 5.4, a placement I could not gain any insight into for years, but now I have through my weight loss journey. Then, the unconscious Saturn in gate 26.4 and an insight via my grieving process. Including having insights into the difference between conscious and unconscious. 

The Ra Uru Hu statement on Saturn, the one literally on the website, that I don't agree with is as follows: He stated that Saturn was karma in a sense and that when he does something bad he gets a small punishment from Saturn. The reward is, when he doesn't do anything bad, he doesn't get it. 

Not at all my experience and it doesn't line up with my theory and understanding of Saturn.

I am going to state that Saturn is not in fact karma. What it might be and it's positive manifestation as well. 

 

Too many rice bowls.

I wanted to write for the title "too many plates". But spinning plates is a term used for dating multiple people at once, and I'm just not that cool. So rice bowls will have to do. 

At the moment, for me, things are so profound that I can't quite capture all the information I have into a coherent message. 

Uranus is now direct in gate 23.5. This theme is very relevant to someone I know, a family member, this specific transit including when Uranus was in 23.5 before. I do not have gate 23 though, or gate 43. Neptune is soon to be leaving gate 36, and as it does I have had two huge insights. One, is simply too large to talk about now, it needs to be processed before it can be expressed. The second of these two insights is that a friend of mine from the past, who is often relevant to Neptune transits, has gate 36 in his incarnation cross. These two things, the transit, the big potentially life changing insight, and the person, are all connected. 

Then we have my final understanding of the movement of Pluto that I have obsessed about for a few months now. Now that Pluto is in gate 41, how it links with my life and gate 60 makes a lot of sense. 

Then I have had insights into the fact that gate 41 is a new cycle, and exactly how important that is. And gate 25 is also a new cycle. As relevant to the tarot I have talked about previously.

All that added together is too much and I have nothing to say. The two outer planets in relation to other peoples charts might contain wisdom such that relates to how the human design is experienced in general. It feels good to capture how we are all 'linked' as the Law of One states. But in a practical way that can be understood. 

All this together might bring an insight into how to translate transits or something; and/ or they could be unified under some wisdom I decide from all this. Or, there might be some energy or thing in my real life that unifies all this. Such as NoFap or Music. 

But the takeaway is at the moment that it is all too much to articulate. So this is where I am at the moment.